let me try wrapping the broadcast in try/catch actually

isn't 30 seconds the timeout? which means something is going wrong - are you never sending a response back from the DO?

Yeah not sure what's going on, will dig with the team on Monday. Thanks for reporting @User and tagging me @User 🙂

as far as i can see, i'm sending a response back. sometimes it's fine and sometimes it takes a long time

I am going to dive into durable objects...however i have a small suggestion: change name from "durable objects" to "durable storage objects" or to "durable low latency custom storage objects" ...for some reason starting out was having trouble grasping the concept when first diving into the cloudflare world, but if it was labeled "durable storage objects" with a small explaination stating, "instead of storing data in KV worker storage" you can create your own KV storage system with faster latency using "Durable Storage Objects" ...just an idea!

carry on

Been reading the docs and DOs might seem a good solution for a webpage editor we are building (with collab functionality). We are trying to skip the OT/CDRT approach. Is a DO fit for this purpose. Could you connect the vue/react state to a DO? The chat app shows a chatroom where new messages are added to an object. But is DO a good option for json objects that are being updated by multiple people at once? Is it possible to only push and sync mutations or do you need to update the complete object when data changes? Thank you.

👋 There is an increase of Internal Errors since 8AM CEST, even after 3 retries. ~30 DO instances affected, perhaps connected to some ongoing network issues?

FYI ticket #2153628

Hey there! Is

wrangler tail

working for anyone here in projects using Durable Objects?

Seems to be resolved now, last error 5 minutes ago and affected DOs seems to be responsive.. some of them were stuck for ~11 hours. Happy to provide more info for checking the root cause tomorrow, just ping me 🙏 🙂

Sorry about the extended length of that issue -- we're improving our alerts as we run into these types of issues and add more beta users. I saw your message here and was able to resolve it... we're working on routing around network issues better in the future. 😦

Thank you! And no worries, it’s beta after all 🙂 I was not sure if I should just report it here or through support channels as well

Are DO data transfer costs negotiable? It seems cloudflare modeled the cost after AWS which already charges 1000x+ markup compared to the POP/IXPs they peer with

making certain types of business models unfeasible to run on cloudflare

(say if your business model fits the high bandwith scope)

Can't you just put the high bandwidth stuff into the Cache system instead of direct from the workers?

experimenting with a simple data store using durable objects. uses a neat tool called zod for JSON validation https://github.com/signalnerve/do-simple-store/blob/main/src/object.ts

cc @User ^

Is it a good idea to build something like Wrangler Tail using durable objects? Conversely, is Wrangler Tail implemented using durable objects? .

Also, is there one instance of durable object exe at any given point in time or are durable objects run in multiple zones nearer to Workers backed by a persistence layer that is stored in just one location? From the open beta blog post it looks like there's ever only one execution of a durable object worldwide that's active. And, is the persistence layer of a durable object replicated across regions/countries?

Huh zod looks interesting havent seen that one before

There is only one instance of each Durable Object worldwide, the primary purpose is to allow for coordination. The persistent storage is replicated, if the colo the object was running in fails, you can expect it fail over to a different location with the same persistent data available.

the Cloudflare cache? that is interesting.. maybe

could the cache be pulled for a DO/worker? like so I dont need to run any servers

Yes. https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/runtime-apis/cache

maybe its possible any idea how fast the cache propogates globally?

It doesn't, that's per colo.

For propagation you need KV.