hands up if you thought it was that high

actually I would have guessed higher.... I have burned out a few times.

As a percentage though that’s pretty fudging high

I wonder though what the demographics are in terms of how long you have been a programmer and the odd of experiencing burnout

yeah, my assumption would be the longer you’ve been one the more likely

exactly

but there’s also so many other factors that could impact it

also, how are they defining "burnout"

I’ve also not heard that term from another industry

See, I just have times where I literally don't want to program anything for a few days

My biggest gripe is the expectation that you should be doing it outside work

but I also have days of intense productivity where I get all kinds of stuff done super fast

I work to live not live to work is my view

same here

I look at my other one, haha only because I’m a pc gamer

It's all about managing expectations though. Early in my career, I was not good at managing expectations, so I ended up feeling stressed and burned out a lot more.

but I don’t do work outside of work

honestly, I would expect it to be higher for anyone who has been a software for developer for 10+ years.

I’m just hitting 10 years and I agree, haha

I'm at 23 years

But yeah the attitude of recruiters and businesses in general that you must have a programming life outside of work makes me grateful for the job I have because to me that’s toxic - like if you were a builder and you got home from work just to build your house? It’s weird in any other sector but in ours it’s for some reason expected 😂

They don't say how many developers participated but they did say the survey was completed "at a remarkable speed from June 23 to 24, 2021" - feels a bit like click bait to me...

I could also envisage that more experienced / long-term developers might NOT suffer from burnout - as they have either learnt to manage upwards (at least to the point of being able to say "This is effecting me - I can't do afterhours work - it will take 3 days - as opposed to just promising it will be done before tomorrow start of business). Or - via the experience of suffering from burnout, previously - (irrespective of "your solution") - manage the stress, better.

For me it took some experience to get to the point where I could effectively manage expectations. I think having those burn out experiences is what triggered my need to learn those skills

for me - it definitely about working in a place that supports me. Somewhere, that without fear, I can say.. "Don't expect greatness from me today - I am on a go-slow". Where I am now - I can genuinely say "I need a morning / afternnon / day - even days off for my mental health" And it is not ever questioned. And even if I don;t specifically state it is for my mental health - it is just known, by what I say... "Don;t expect greatness from me today..." I'll still do as much as I can - but only what I can manage without adversely effecting my mental health or ability to actually do "real" work.

Unfortunately not all work environments are like that

@Scott Bennett - It would be wonderful - if workplaces operated / demanded of you - the appropriate amount - without having to experience work-related stress / depression "having" to teach you to cope with it.

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