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# lucee
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Are you citing something I said as the basis for good conduct? Blimey. What's this world come to?!? 😉
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You're an idiot :)
Sorry couldn't resist
I read both and couldn't agree more
z
Send me to the naughty corner
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Jerk!
w
i wasn't aware of the original conversation when it happened, but following the link above this jumped out at me:
the word blacklist is offensive and should not be used
if you're going to take a stand on principle, be damn sure you're correct about your position. the etymology of the term blacklist has nothing to do with 'people with dark skin' and everything to do with the connotations of the color itself and how it's been used historically. this is similar to how the root of the term 'pussy' has nothing to do with female genitalia and is actually just a slang derivation of the word 'pusillanimous' (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pusillanimous). it all just seems sad and counterproductive to fight the war of words, especially when the outrage or objections are fundamentally wrong. there are plenty of other truly objectionable words to spend one's energy avoiding than to spend it on the implication that anything prefixed with white- means privilege and black- means racist. it's wrong, and causes more harm than good, imo
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was 'whitelist' changed to 'allowlist'?
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honestly we don't care about the history, it's the perception..
we only use whitelist in lucee docs, I'm gonna change that too just to annoy you 🙂
w
we should care about the accuracy, and staunchly defend it. legislating based purely on perception is dangerous.
a
Yeah that was not a shining moment of joined-up thinking on the part of LAS there. Far from being inclusive, I think it's patronising and not a small bit... well... "offensive" (if we're playing the "taking offence" game)... to suggest that unrelated usages of the word "black" are going to be found offensive by all those poor people with more melanin in their skin that you or I. (and before anyone starts... that is not MY thinking, I am projecting how LAS's position comes across). It comes across like the hue and cry there was when that David Howard bloke used the word "niggardly" and ppl got all confused about what it means and just figured it sounded like [another word] so therefore they should get offended. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_niggardly#David_Howard_incident Telling quote from the NAACP re the incident above:
You hate to think you have to censor your language to meet other people's lack of understanding
This thing with blacklist is born of the same sort of ignorance, and it should not be encouraged.
w
good thing there are only two races in this world, otherwise this language cleanup could get messy
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honestly it was an industry wide move in 2020, seriously folks, go and find a better hill to die on https://9to5google.com/2020/06/12/google-android-chrome-blacklist-blocklist-more-inclusive/
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Nice one re "pusillanimous" @websolete. I had always thought it was connected to cats (as in "fraidy cat") not vaginas, but have seen the misplaced outrage there too.
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oh, and 'jewelry' should be replaced with 'shiny things'.
a
You're the one who thinks you're on a hill though, Zack. We're the ones telling you "there is no hill there mate"
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then just let it go FFS
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We can't have a discussion about something because you don't happen to like it?
w
this is healthy
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How about... you go?
ANYWAY BACK TO VAGINAL JEWELLERY...
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[^^^ calculated to kill the thread dead]
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oh please don't blacklist me
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WOOOP WOOOP WOOOP KILL THE WITCH WOOOP WOOOP WOOOP
I MEAN FEMALE SORCEROR
OH GOD THIS IS SO CONFUSING
(not your god. Another god. Fuck.)
I mean "flip"
w
too early for popcorn
a
WHAT?
OK now that is offensive.
Next you'll be saying it's not beer o'clock.
z
I just poured out a vodka, the great thing about Germany is a bottle only costs 6 euro
w
that's almost six american dollars!
z
didn't they reach parity last week?
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Oh so now you're supporting Russia, Zack? Nice one.
😛
w
and they said there was never a robust coldfusion community. ha.
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Zack, if you were to put some kahlua in that vodka, what would you call it? (

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#myWorkHereIsDone