Are there any CFML jobs out there? Compared to oth...
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Ookma-Kyi
07/05/2022, 4:32 PMAre there any CFML jobs out there? Compared to other languages like Python, Java etc. there doesn't seem to be many jobs which leads to to believe ColdFusion isn't a popular language. However I read many Fortune 100 companies use it. Is there any reason when compared to other language why they choose ColdFusion?
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aliaspooryorik
07/05/2022, 5:06 PM
Yes there are jobs out there although maybe less then you'd find in some other languages. There is a #jobs channel.
aliaspooryorik
07/05/2022, 5:09 PM
I don't know for sure, but I would hazard a guess that a lot of Fortune 100 companies do have systems built with ColdFusion but that they do not use ColdFusion exclusively. It maybe that some of those companies have one or more ColdFusion apps that provide a crucial business function but aren't actively developed as they are functionally complete.
aliaspooryorik
07/05/2022, 5:10 PM
Bigger companies will be using more than one tech stack.
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Scott Bennett
07/05/2022, 5:18 PMAs someone who has worked on ColdFusion for over 22 years, I can say that I have not personally ever had any trouble finding CF work when I needed it… but certainly there are less jobs than other more popular languages. I also have primarily worked for large companies over my career and certainly a large company with multiple products will often have a wide variety of tech stacks they deal with as many products are aquired from other companies, or developed at different times with different goals and reasons for their tech stack selections.
Also all the products I have have been involved with are always actively being developed/improved upon.
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Ookma-Kyi
07/05/2022, 5:26 PM@Scott Steinbeck What is it in ColdFusion that companies you worked with decide to use ColdFusion in the 1st place? Existing tech stack, performance, ease of use etc.?
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Scott Steinbeck
07/05/2022, 5:32 PMi think you meant to ping @Scott Bennett
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Scott Bennett
07/05/2022, 5:33 PMMostly it centers around productivity
Scott Bennett
07/05/2022, 5:40 PMAlso most of the products I have personally worked on are fairly large and complex... so when some "CF is Dead" false prophet in upper management tries to tell us we need to re-write it, I can just give them an estimate of the investment that it would take to re-write the whole system in some other language, and then suddenly it seems like a better idea to stick with CF.
Scott Bennett
07/05/2022, 6:34 PMobviously my experience is not necessarily indicative of the CF community as a whole, but I have primarily been in management level roles since 2003, and in addition to managing development of CF applications, I have managed several teams that use other languages....I have never officially tried to actually measure/compare the productivity of the various teams I manage (which can be hard to do given varying complexities of projects/skill levels of team menbers/etc) so take this with a grain of salt but... My potentially biased/non-scientific/anectodal opinion is that the CF teams I have managed are significantly more productive.
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Daniel Mejia
07/05/2022, 7:37 PM@Ookma-Kyi have you found this site yet? https://www.getcfmljobs.com/ Its updated all the time.
Although cfml is not as popular as other languages, you shouldn't have a problem getting a job.
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Scott Bennett
07/05/2022, 7:46 PMI also frequently see CF job listings on LinkedIn... Also, google has a job listing aggregator/search tool where you can set it up to alert you everything a ColdFusion job gets added https://jobs.google.com/about/ I see new listings most every day.
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Evil Ware
07/05/2022, 9:25 PMyes, there are Coldfusion jobs out there. Every time I hear some project engineer state they can build something in 18 months with 20 Java developers I chuckle and state We can do it in 18 weeks or less and will do it for the cost of 2 of those java developers for 18 months...
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Mark Takata (Adobe)
07/05/2022, 11:51 PMLotsa jobs out there. I have a LinkedIn job tracker that looks for remote only CF jobs and it pings several times a week with new stuff. Plus jobs channel here, plus posts on the ColdFusion Programmers FB site. After COVID, lots of remote opportunities have showed up. Companies come to me complaining there aren't enough CF Devs.
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