Hey all, after posting on her friday, I was able to install CF 2021 PMT....some css is weird in edge so i don't see the menu items, but can still click on the space and they work...weird. ANYWAY, I thought in PMT it tracked errors that happen in the code either reading an error log file, or something...am i incorrect, or maybe the system has not thrown an error yet...testing it on our test server so not as much traffic...Thanks for the info