Just watched a really informative presentation by ...
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Jim Frankowski
09/30/2022, 4:34 PMJust watched a really informative presentation by @carehart about CFSetup - (missed it yesterday due to meetings). My anticipation of "am I forgetting something" has significantly reduced after seeing what CFSetup can do -- and especially how to use it! Thanks for the nice demo!
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drewnathanson
09/30/2022, 6:08 PMThis was a great presentation and certainly shows how to make your life easier if you are in control of multiple servers. Thank Charlie !
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carehart
10/01/2022, 12:27 AMThanks, so much, guys. Really glad to help, and I do hope that more and more people will learn about and leverage that tool.
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Daniel Mejia
10/05/2022, 6:57 PMFellas consider looking at commandbox with cfconfig
1. Download commandbox https://www.ortussolutions.com/products/commandbox#download
2. Install Cfconfig - https://cfconfig.ortusbooks.com/using-the-cli/installation
Daniel Mejia
10/05/2022, 7:00 PMNow that we have 2 tools to choose from it would be great for the community to provide feedback on why they choose the tools they choose to keep the innovation going.
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carehart
10/05/2022, 9:19 PMDaniel, to be clear I do cover cfconfig some in that talk, and more in one I did last year. The focus here was indeed on cfsetup primarily, since I'm not aware of ANYONE having presented (or even blogged) about it. :-)
And as for your looking for feedback, if you mean on cfsetup, I suspect that 99.99% of cfers are totally unaware of it (and that includes those using cfconfig). So I'd not have much hope for much feedback now, or even for a while. But we'll see.
If instead you really are asking about the broader question of having choices like Coke and Pepsi in our tools, that's certainly a different question. :-)
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Daniel Mejia
10/06/2022, 1:40 AMnow that you mention it hasn't really been adverstised kinda just tells me ..... well.... I am sure Adobe has their reasons.
Daniel Mejia
10/06/2022, 1:56 AMcfsetup is not bad, Adobe should add it to forgebox.io and make a commandbox command for it. Just because its an alternative to cfconfig doesn't mean it can't be widely used or used with commandbox.
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carehart
10/06/2022, 2:06 AMWell, there are hundreds of things in cf that Adobe (and others) never talk about--and there are even often a few DOZEN new things in each release that they don't talk much beyond the docs (and that virtually no one else does). This is not unique to Adobe.
carehart
10/06/2022, 2:09 AMI presented on it to give it attention--and sure, as people use it they may find warts. FWIW, Brad has acknowledged that its back up on import is a useful thing that cfconfig could incorporate. I don't see it as a zero-sum game. Each can innovate, just like happens with ACF and Lucee (and not always only in "one direction").
carehart
10/06/2022, 2:14 AMAs for the idea of someone offering it on forgebox, that's an interesting idea. I suspect some would carp at two such similar things there, but maybe there are other instances of that.
I doubt Adobe will bother, but I could be wrong. And while someone who is a fan of cfsetup could be motivated, I do think it's a stretch to think someone big on forgebox would want to risk blowback that some in the community might offer. Of course, someone could do it as merely a learning exercise for adding things to forgebox. Again, time will tell.
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Daniel Mejia
10/06/2022, 2:32 AMtwo or more things of the same thing in forgebox is welcomed, and yes there are plenty of examples of that.