what side effects should i be aware of if i were t...
# luceej
jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 7:37 PMwhat side effects should i be aware of if i were to consider moving from the regular lucee docker image to the light version?
(optional) is a build with the Lucee "Light" JAR file, WITHOUT any extensions (users must install extensions separately, this includes database drivers, ORM, ESAPI, S3, image handling, etc)-light
jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 7:38 PMi figure there would be some extensions that i may need to install manually.
however, i wonder if there would also be a side effect of a given lucee version not having a default, pinned, version of any given extention.
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sknowlton
05/08/2023, 7:38 PMWe've always used lucee light. It just means we have to specify all the extensions we want in our Dockerfile
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sknowlton
05/08/2023, 7:38 PMLucee light still 'works' so it doesn't depend on any of those extensions, but there are some your code may take for granted
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jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 7:41 PMi'm already installing some optional extensions (and some newer versions of certain extensions) in the fat image but there's a certain behavior that i can rely on there for built-in extensions: a given version of lucee will have a given default, pinned version of a given (LAS) extension.
perks of that:
• i don't have to explicitly pin extension versions for "stock" extensions
• without explicitly pinning extension versions, i still get the newer (but still implicitly pinned) versions of stock extensions. (IOW, i upgrade stock extensions when, and only when, i upgrade lucee, which can be a good thing)
jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 7:42 PMin the light version are there default/implicit extension versions for a given version of lucee or will i need to start pinning all extension versions if i don't want them upgrading unpredictably?
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sknowlton
05/08/2023, 8:17 PMIn lucee light there are no extensions at all, as far as I know
sknowlton
05/08/2023, 8:17 PMThe whole point is to divorce the engine from the extensions
sknowlton
05/08/2023, 8:18 PMI think but don't like relying on this behavior that it will try and fetch an extension if your code asks for it, and it will grab the latest production release
sknowlton
05/08/2023, 8:18 PMso we always pin everything
sknowlton
05/08/2023, 8:18 PMI'd check on that behavior though, don't take my word for it
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jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 8:20 PMokay, i think that last bit answers my question, since you're pinning everything. i'll do an experiment with an older and newer light version and see which version of, say "compress tags" i get with a really old lucee light image and the latest light image.
jamiejackson
05/08/2023, 8:20 PMi figure it's as we both both expect: that we'll get the latest extension version, regardless of which version of lucee it is.
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sknowlton
05/08/2023, 10:01 PMI'd expect you wouldn't get compress at all unless your code invokes it
sknowlton
05/08/2023, 10:01 PMat which point lucee will stop, go fetch it, install it, and then yes, it should be the latest production release regardless of what version of Lucee you're running