<@U04S8PLJWMT> I have a Snowflake destination that...
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@kapa.ai I have a Snowflake destination that breaks every time there's a schema change. I can't give table ownership to airbyte's role. Is there a way to fix this without granting ownership? All the replications are full append
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The knowledge sources don’t describe a fully supported way to run the Snowflake destination without OWNERSHIP while still being robust to schema changes, so the following is based only on what is explicitly documented and discussed. 1. Why OWNERSHIP is requested Airbyte’s Snowflake destination role is expected to have OWNERSHIP so it can freely create and manage objects (including renames and swaps) in the target database/schema. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] When you don’t grant OWNERSHIP, operations the connector relies on (e.g., certain ALTER/CREATE patterns) can fail, which is likely what you’re seeing when schemas change. 2. What’s officially recommended In the forum discussion, the Airbyte team’s recommendation is: - Create a dedicated database for Airbyte and give the Airbyte role OWNERSHIP there, so it doesn’t conflict with other roles that need OWNERSHIP on your main DB. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] That is the only concrete, documented workaround for the OWNERSHIP requirement in the provided sources. 3. Trying with reduced privileges One user asked if they could get away with just
CREATE/ALTER
etc. instead of OWNERSHIP; the Airbyte team replied that the “safest way” is still a dedicated DB with OWNERSHIP, and did not confirm that reduced privileges are supported. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] So there is no documented guarantee that running with less than OWNERSHIP will work reliably, especially across schema changes. 4. Interaction with schema changes / full-append The docs and issues we have focus on: - Schema-change detection and propagation at the Airbyte connection level (how new/removed columns/streams are handled). [[Schema change mgmt](https://docs.airbyte.com/platform/using-airbyte/schema-change-management#detect-and-propagate-schema-changes-connection-setting)] - A Snowflake issue where
Full Refresh | Overwrite
uses
ALTER TABLE ... SWAP WITH
, which interacts badly with Snowflake future grants. [[Snowflake grants issue](https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/issues/68681)] Your case is Full Refresh | Append, so the specific SWAP/grants problem doesn’t apply directly, and the sources don’t describe a separate, supported permission pattern for that mode. --- Given the available information: - There is no documented, supported configuration in these sources that avoids OWNERSHIP entirely while guaranteeing stable behavior under schema changes. - The only recommended way to “fix this without breaking other ownership requirements” is to: - Put Airbyte in its own Snowflake database (or at least its own schemas), and - Grant OWNERSHIP to the Airbyte role there, isolating it from your other roles. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] If you need something more fine‑grained than that (e.g., strictly no OWNERSHIP at all), the knowledge sources do not provide enough detail to confirm a safe alternative.
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@kapa.ai I specifically don't want to grant ownership because of the future grant issue. Is it fully safe with full append, even in case of schema changes?
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The knowledge sources do not explicitly state whether using the Snowflake destination without OWNERSHIP is “fully safe” with Full Refresh | Append in the presence of schema changes, so I can’t guarantee that setup. What we do know from the sources: - Airbyte recommends granting OWNERSHIP so the connector can “create and manage the Snowflake resources in the database and schema,” and calls a dedicated Airbyte DB with OWNERSHIP the safest approach. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] - When a user asked if they could rely only on
CREATE/ALTER
instead of OWNERSHIP, the Airbyte team did not confirm that as a supported pattern; they reiterated that the safest way is a dedicated DB with OWNERSHIP. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] - The documented “future grant issue” is specifically tied to
Full Refresh | Overwrite
using
ALTER TABLE ... SWAP WITH
and the
airbyte_internal
schema, not to Full Refresh | Append. [[Snowflake grants issue](https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/issues/68681)] However, the docs and issues provided do not: - Describe the exact DDL pattern used by the Snowflake destination for Full Refresh | Append. - State that running without OWNERSHIP is supported or safe under schema changes for any sync mode. Because of that, I cannot say it is “fully safe” to avoid OWNERSHIP, even with Full Refresh | Append and schema changes. The only configuration the sources present as reliable and recommended is: - Give the Airbyte role OWNERSHIP, ideally in a separate database/schema dedicated to Airbyte, so you can still use future grants and isolate governance concerns. [[Snowflake forum](https://discuss.airbyte.io/t/785)] If you must avoid OWNERSHIP entirely, the knowledge sources don’t provide enough information to confirm that this will be robust in all schema‑change scenarios.