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    timoguin

    05/10/2023, 2:24 AM
    In all there are 2 CloudFormation stacks that are managed via the
    matano deploy
    CLI, which is a CDK app. Aside from baseline stuff, there are resources dynamically allocated based on your configuration. But it's those basic ones.
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    timoguin

    05/10/2023, 2:33 AM
    It's definitely cheaper than Splunk or Sumologic. πŸ˜›
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    timoguin

    05/10/2023, 2:58 AM
    Probably cheaper than CloudWatch Logs too. 😁
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    chrisatroom17.com

    05/10/2023, 9:35 AM
    Ok, so it does deploy CFTs. That would make cleanup easier. I did a quick look at the repo and didn't see any templates. CDK (like Discord) is that new fangled stuff that kids these days use. Back in my day.....
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    shaeq

    05/10/2023, 9:38 AM
    Yep we compile the yml in a Matano directory to CDK to CFN templates that deploy to a stack in your account
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    timoguin

    05/10/2023, 4:31 PM
    And
    matano destroy
    will tear those stacks back down.
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    chrisatroom17.com

    05/10/2023, 8:19 PM
    I'd be curious what's left behind (buckets, tables, etc). Probably just as easy to spin up a matano account and close it when I'm done with the POC
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    chrisatroom17.com

    05/10/2023, 8:19 PM
    and might make a good blog post
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    timoguin

    05/10/2023, 8:23 PM
    good question. I don't remember off the top of my head because I would never destroy my Matanos. I think they made it to where it would clean up the data as well, if desired. But I've also seen mentions recently of Glue tables being left behind.
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    shaeq

    05/12/2023, 8:08 AM
    Yep the
    matano destroy
    command is currently meant to just destroy everything
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    shaeq

    05/12/2023, 8:09 AM
    @binarysouljour Welcome!
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    binarysouljour

    05/12/2023, 8:57 AM
    Hey, thanks @shaeq it is good to be here
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    jimx

    05/12/2023, 8:02 PM
    Hi there! Wondering if you know VAST platform (vast.io). In some ways it looks to me the project has a similar main objective as Matano (though I perceive Matano much easier to grasp and understand). Obvious things aside, could you kindly point to some of the main differences in implementation, philosophy, architecture, etc. ?
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:04 PM
    I was gonna say I didn't know it, but I have the repo starred. Lemme take a quick look. πŸ˜›
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:09 PM
    Quick skimming tells me they're positioned as competition to Cribl. A big portion of their docs are about reducing data volume before sending it to your SIEM. It's written in C++.
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:09 PM
    Looks like they run server nodes (instead of being fully serverless like Matano is with Lambda). Their AWS doc shows server nodes running on Fargate.
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:09 PM
    This is an odd choice: > For storage, VAST uses EFS.
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:16 PM
    There's definitely some overlap, and it looks like a cool project.
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    timoguin

    05/12/2023, 8:21 PM
    They seem to have built a lot of the components themselves (like their own query language, their own type system), whereas Matano utilizes a handful of mature technologies like ECS schemas, VRL for transforms, Iceberg for table storage, etc.
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    jimx

    05/13/2023, 11:03 AM
    Very good. Thank you very much @timoguin
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    jimx

    05/13/2023, 11:04 AM
    I agree about storage choice
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    jimx

    05/13/2023, 11:13 AM
    And definitely I’m more inclined to serverless approach. Vast has its very roots on solving the issue of storing and querying the vast amount of data that can be produced from Zeek(a Network Security Monitoring) platform. From there, they evolved to what they are today. It has great academic roots and they try to solve a similar problem that Matano does. I personally favor Matano’s approach on building a Rust based serverless platforms on top of proven cloud native storage. So keel up the good work! πŸ€“
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    samrose

    05/17/2023, 12:56 AM
    Welcome @boredbear @YuvSch and @Fauxpro !
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    chrismsnz

    05/18/2023, 9:33 PM
    dropped my log configs for osquery in to https://github.com/matanolabs/matano/issues/133, should be enough in there to make a managed source for it? there's lots of further ingestion stuff that a user might want to do which i assume they can do in a custom log source that inherits from the managed source
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    chrismsnz

    05/18/2023, 9:36 PM
    I also have teleport log ingest configuration I'm happy to share. Less clear is that there's any easy/supported way to get the logs in to AWS which is nice to have for a managed log source. I am using vector to read the audit events from a file and spray them at a firehose that writes to the ingestion bucket
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    chrismsnz

    05/18/2023, 9:52 PM
    https://github.com/matanolabs/matano/issues/150 teleport log ingest
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    samrose

    05/18/2023, 9:58 PM
    Thanks, this is very awesome! I will take a closer look soon.
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    timoguin

    05/19/2023, 8:51 AM
    Fantastic work, @chrismsnz!
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    chrismsnz

    05/28/2023, 8:39 PM
    thanks for upstreaming that teleport stuff! shout out to my employer fly.io who are more than happy for me to hand back any work i do as part of our PoC deployment
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    samrose

    05/28/2023, 9:07 PM
    Yes Chris, thanks for the initiative and great work on contributing both Teleport and OsQuery integrations! Both will be merged soon.