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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 9:51 AM
    Wont spoil the class due to potential spoiler haha, and yeah, in this case player B has ability to negate collision damage, in fact he/she only has 1 hp left by the time we use this move 🤣 We are debating whether player B should take the retaliation immediately or do we treat it as natural damage and the monster will aim to the closest oathsworn, which in this case of course it is player B 🤣 Same result but 2 different pathways though
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    skyflight

    04/19/2023, 10:45 AM
    Just think about how a bar fight is started. Someone push another person into a table, then those at the table would start hitting that person. 😉
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    ChaosFarseer

    04/19/2023, 4:15 PM
    I think that the knockback wouldn't cause the monster to immediately target player B. I think the monster would resort to its default targeting (which is likely closest Oathsworn, and thus player B anyway). That's just based on how, even if only the Witch can create fire tiles and one removes a health die, or if the monster is knocked into a minion and removes a health die, I don't believe either of those prioritize the character which indirectly removed the die.
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    Tonzin

    04/19/2023, 4:38 PM
    This is a grey area in the rules. This type of specific situation isn't explicitly covered. Personally, I don't think either of the methods previously mentioned would be an inappropriate rules interpretation as things currently stand. The more important thing is that people remain consistent in how their group handles this. I tend to handle things like ChaosFarseer has mentioned, but I certainly understand the desire to have Player B become the target.
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    Tonzin

    04/19/2023, 4:38 PM
    All of the character abilities have been publicly shown directly by SBG, I don't think any of this falls under spoiler territory.
  • d

    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 6:44 PM
    Ah i see, its witch telekinesis then, my mate throw our penitent to the boss, breaking one of its bodypart
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    Peter

    04/19/2023, 6:45 PM
    You can do that as well with the harbinger
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    Peter

    04/19/2023, 6:46 PM
    Don’t know if stating card or lvl 2 but I think stating card
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    Tonzin

    04/19/2023, 6:46 PM
    Haha. I've not used Telekinesis to throw my allies into enemies too often, but it is definitely a card I use to move them around the battlefield to reposition in range or out of range of the enemy
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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 6:48 PM
    Havent got the chances to use him yet atm We finished our 8th scenario yesterday and finally after a very unlucky run we got our first victim (played the hardest difficulty where knocked down player is considered dead) RIP cur 🤣
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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 6:48 PM
    We replace him with dendri ranger tomorow
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    Peter

    04/19/2023, 6:49 PM
    Poor Cur, no smoke bomb? 😉
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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 6:52 PM
    Nope, he carry the game hard yesterday, did almost 20 damage by himself, used smoke bomb to protect our witch and barely escape with 1 hp left far away from the boss only to get….. Well… if you played scenario 8 already you will know that no matter how far you run, death can come to you anytime, wont spoil more than that lol
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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 6:53 PM
    Lets just said that he died a very painful dead lol
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    Doc76

    04/19/2023, 7:45 PM
    Its definitely a very desperate attempt hahaha, that was really out of the box solution thought, kudos to our witch player to even think about such possibilities
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    Born

    04/23/2023, 2:02 AM
    Question: - witch uses telekinesis to knockback the large monster in direction of their choosing (straight line) - this causes it to collide with an oathsworn dealing 1 damage to each the monster and the oathsworn. -it also lands in 3 fire. -after the knockback damage, the monster has 3 health dice with 1 health a piece. By understanding of fire, since it's not aoe, each fire does 1 damage at once and all 3 spots of the monster are broken and it dies with any reaction on its last 3 location dice. (I do have a picture of the setup but wanted to avoid posting potential spoilers)
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    Daidoji_Micah

    04/23/2023, 2:58 AM
    By "with any reaction on its last 3 dice" do you mean "*after* any reaction?" I believe if it's the last boss in the encounter it will execute 2 reactions and then die, if it's not the last boss it will be removed before reactions start but will trigger 3 reactions from the remaining enemies. I think you got the damage assignment correct.
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 5:22 AM
    1) only the breaking of the very last die doesn’t trigger a reaction. Even if multiple get removed at the same time, like in your example, it would mean die removed-1 reactions trigger
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 5:23 AM
    Also: the updated rules say iirc that a monster can only lose one hp per round from landing on fire tiles
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 5:27 AM

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984598547800412160/1099567170696007740/image.png▾

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    Tonzin

    04/23/2023, 6:28 AM
    Yup, this is a significant change. Especially for those people who like using the Witch to run the enemies through fire tiles to break a lot of dice haha
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 7:05 AM
    Also though a minion doesn’t die when entering that hex and still attacks you first/contributes to an attack, right? So you cannot create a “zone” around your tank to crowd control minions
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    skyflight

    04/23/2023, 9:46 AM
    Why would a minion not die from a fire tile?
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:10 AM
    It takes damage at the end of round phase
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:12 AM
    Soo, after the encounter phase
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:12 AM
    So it will die, but only later
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:13 AM
    Also pushing things onto fire will not do anything if the enemy moves off before the end of encounter phase
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:16 AM
    It’s a very big nerf To fire witches
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    Peter

    04/23/2023, 10:20 AM
    Shows you how busted the witch was that it was needed 😅
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    skyflight

    04/23/2023, 10:26 AM
    @Peter, you are talking about the new rule changes?
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